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    ICANN: So Where Are We? -> New TLD extensions

    ICANN have a blog moderated (authored) by Kieren McCarthy. One of the latest entries is a summation of where ICANN are regarding the new gTLD's that have attracted such a firestorm.

    I have posted comments, both constructive & critical, in my ongoing effort to dialogue with ICANN. Many of my comments pertain to ICANN's "process".

    I think some of the domainers here will be interested in this flow of discussion on the blog. Here's the link if interested in adding your comments (comments located at bottom of the post) ...

    http://blog.icann.org/2009/05/so-whe...et-extensions/

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    Better to write the NTIA/DOC as I noted at:

    http://forum.icann.org/lists/bc-gnso/msg00023.html

    than waste one's words on ICANN staffers.
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    Originally posted by GeorgeK
    Better to write the NTIA/DOC as I noted at:

    http://forum.icann.org/lists/bc-gnso/msg00023.html

    than waste one's words on ICANN staffers.
    No kidding.

    I read that web page and was so pissed, in a rare moment, I actually had to stop myself from posting anything ....

    The idea that they say the organization and it's staff are not the same, and that *ANYBODY* would accept such an answer, is a great example of the dumbing down of society ...

    That statement is an attempt to suggest ICANN has no policy and procedures to insure all stake holders are represented, and that they have *ZERO* responsibilty or accountability to do so. It in effect suggest their mission is to do what they are told to do ......

    Also note ICANN has *NO* clear mission statement which helps their faint:

    http://www.icann.org/en/general/towa...nt-07mar02.htm

    If you can't tell me what you are about then I can't challenge you, I can't claim you are not doing what you are suppose to be doing .... Again, it denies accountability.

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    Originally posted by ILikeInfo
    If you can't tell me what you are about then I can't challenge you, I can't claim you are not doing what you are suppose to be doing .... Again, it denies accountability.
    I agree that ICANN public reps seem schooled in the art of deflection. But that supports the merit of an ongoing online discussion that everyone can view and/or participate in.

    ICANN either defend their proposals with cogent explanations, or they dig a deeper hole for themselves with weak answers, and obvious deflection of their inherent responsibilities. To the extent the latter gets repeated over & over, then the impetus for a new oversight body emerges.

    ICANN are either going to keep screwing up, or they are going to align themselves with common sense logic and the collective will of the majority who are weighing in regarding new gTLD's.

    The questions ICANN are being forced to face are actually very straightforward. I'm not yet satisfied with their answers. One being WHY the floodgate approach of releasing 500 tld's instead of the superior alternative of a controlled, gradual release of select tld's ... to allow for assimilation and real world testing.

    I specifically asked Kieren to elaborate on WHY this approach. No thorough explanation has been offered by her or anyone at ICANN. Because no defensible explanation exists. It makes no sense to approve the release of possibly hundreds of new extensions.

    So the public conversation needs to keep playing out. Either ICANN will offer convincing & compelling justifications for the multiple tld orgy, or they won't. And that in itself dictates what will happen. To the extent they won't or can't justify a tld orgy, then ICANN's credibility dissolves. It's a high risk proposal with no safe underlying rationale. A tld orgy is just stupid to commit themselves to it when they can't yet intelligently resolve the major issues.

    That's why the artificial timeline worries me so much. It's totally indefensible. And is driven by a story that no one understands yet or even knows about. Why the timeline? Just explain it. Explain it now. No deflection. Just answer the question. Why a rushed timeline? Why 500 tld's?

    So ICANN are in the driver's seat. Demonstrate due diligence and good judgement that stakeholders can observe, or behave like monarchs and get ousted on their as*ses for ignoring the articulated concerns of government, corporations, individuals.

    For a non-profit "neutral overseer", with all the expressed disclaimers you wrote about, they appear more like a well-oiled money making global corporation. Very driven by some internal roadmap few on the outside can see.

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    Originally posted by carlton
    The questions ICANN are being forced to face are actually very straightforward. I'm not yet satisfied with their answers. One being WHY the floodgate approach of releasing 500 tld's instead of the superior alternative of a controlled, gradual release of select tld's ... to allow for assimilation and real world testing.

    ...

    Because no defensible explanation exists. It makes no sense to approve the release of possibly hundreds of new extensions.
    Yes it does.

    The first to deploy those TLDs *CONTROLS* those TLDs and gets most of the business for future TLDs.

    They are trying to protect those 13/2 settings that point to their authority and deny other authorities the ability to obtain a foothold.

    Add to that what Neulevel did expecting ICANN to change current contracts to that used for the new TLDs. So the current registries see huge opertunity to change their current contract and thus support this initiative. This is also motivation to insure *ENDUSERS* are not involved .....

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