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    Yahoo Answers - Pulled for Content

    Well yahoo won't justify why this question was pulled. And there was a ton of great answers before they censored it.

    I have the answer to it now, but anyone have any idea why this question woulod be pulled for content?

    Deleted Question: Where is the Capital of Islam?

    Question Details: Vatican City for all intent and purpose is the "Capital" of Catholicism. I believe in the past I heard that a town in Iraq was the Capitol of Islam. I don't mean to offend Sunni or Shiite, but does the Islamic religion have a "Capital" Or does either Sunni or Shiite have their own "Capital". I am speaking of a governing body. Does Islam have one and where do they govern from? Or is Islam fragmented and does it have many different religious "centers"? Thanks in advance.

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    I was aware that Mecca contains the Holiest place in Islam, but is there a governing body there that is recognized by the majority of Islamic peoples.

    fyi good answers here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliph
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliphate

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    Alright I get it, touchy subject for all.

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    umm, maybe where they have the most weapons?
    Never start vast projects with half-vast ideas.

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    Re: Yahoo Answers - Pulled for Content

    Originally posted by 218

    Deleted Question: Where is the Capital of Islam?
    Where the Caliph resides?

    Right now,there is no Caliph and,therefore,no Caliphate.
    Caesar adsum jam forte — Antonius sed passus sum.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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    Thanks futurismo, I'd expect this knowledge to be more out in the open. This seems to be one of those things that goes unspoken for one reason or another. Yet it seems to be of great signifigance.
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    Tricky stuff.

    In the best light,having a revived Caliph with a "Parliament" of Islamic scholars who would make the religion's policy on modern world issues.The "voice" of the Umma that world leaders could go and talk to about Danish cartoons,the veil,female circumcision,slavery,execution of prisoners,Sharia in the 21st century,war and peace etc..

    In the worst light,you could have a revived Caliph under an extremist group like Al-Qaeda (they're trying to make this claim) to whom nobody could talk to.

    You also have this problem:Two Caliphs are not allowed - so would the Caliph be a Sunni or a Shia?
    Caesar adsum jam forte — Antonius sed passus sum.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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    Difficult indeed as apparently Turkey reserves the right to restablish the Caliphate if it chooses to (in a legal sense), however the Shia believed it to be an inherited position of power. Can they produce an hier?
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    Enlightening stuff you two are presenting, too bad Yahoo did not give the masses an opertunity to learn. Thank you for the lesson.

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    Tell me about it ILI yahoo still won't tell me why it was pulled.

    Originally posted by futurismo
    You also have this problem:Two Caliphs are not allowed - so would the Caliph be a Sunni or a Shia?
    The more I think about this I'm thinking more than one Caliph could be better than none. Even though it would be technically not allowed.

    Just like in Christianity where most people take for granted that the Papacy in Rome is the only Pope yet another Pope sits right across the Mediterranean Sea in Alexandria, the Coptic Pope who inisists that they descend from St. Mark as he should have inherited the Church and not St. Peter, of whom Rome's claim is based on. However the West pays this Coptic Papacy no attention whatsoever.

    If Al-Qaeda does succeed in re-establishing a Caliphate in Iraq, it would certainly be in moderate Islam's best interest to create a moderate one or for Turkey to re-establish one before such time.

    But remembering my history and putting dates together, one could assume the end of the Caliphate somehow corresponds to the end of World War I. Turkey signs it's treaty with the Allies in 1923, and abolishes the Caliphate in 1924.

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    Originally posted by 218
    But remembering my history and putting dates together, one could assume the end of the Caliphate somehow corresponds to the end of World War I. Turkey signs it's treaty with the Allies in 1923, and abolishes the Caliphate in 1924.
    So Turkey abolishes the Caliphate in 1924 and that's it, no more Caliphate for 80+ years and counting? How could there be such an extended period of time without one?

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    My best guess, and keep in mind this is from a Western perspective I'd say the Allies were behind it in order to keep the upper hand on Islamic Civilization. And like most of the knuckleheaded things Western Civ has to answer for it always comes back to bite us in the ass.

    The Ottoman Empire fell and we probably wanted to keep it down. And I assume what better way than to accomplish that but by abolishishing that which is the core of their belief system. All it did was postpone the inevitable; another battle of civilizations.
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    Originally posted by 218
    All it did was postpone the inevitable; another battle of civilizations.
    That's the thing that pisses me off most, is it really civilzation or is it the idiots that we put in charge of each "civilization" that results in these battles?

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    Originally posted by 218
    The Ottoman Empire fell and we probably wanted to keep it down. And I assume what better way than to accomplish that but by abolishishing that which is the core of their belief system. All it did was postpone the inevitable; another battle of civilizations.
    In the First World War,the Germans actually had a strong hand in getting the Turks to declare Holy War on the Allies .The German interest in this - other than the inevitable oil interest - was to fire a rebellion within the Allied territories.The Jihad was taken up with some success and something like three Imperial Muslim regiments muntinied in Iraq -refusing to fight their fellow religionists.

    But - in the end - the real rebellion was against this Jihad,against the Caliph and against the Turkish Empire.

    Lawrence and the Arab revolt -with a bit of backing.

    After the war,The Father of the Turks made sure that Turkey would become a part of the modern world by making it a secular state.

    The Vatican City is it's own state.

    Maybe Islam needs its equivalent in Medina,Mecca or wherever.

    Personally,I would banish all three "Abrahamic religions" - can't say "Semitic religions" here because you'll have draqon doing his armchair warrior bit - to Jerusalem and tell them to squabble amongst themselves there and only there- and leave the rest of us in peace.
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    i think the way to heal the rifts between the abrahamic religions is to have large quantities of muslim and christian women mate with me repeatedly over a long period of time. do you know of any volunteers?

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    Originally posted by draqon
    i think the way to heal the rifts between the abrahamic religions is to have large quantities of muslim and christian women mate with me repeatedly over a long period of time. do you know of any volunteers?
    Good of you to volunteer but the predicted suprareligion is -ahem - matriarchal and would require you to change sex,go to Babylon and open your legs for all and sundry.
    Caesar adsum jam forte — Antonius sed passus sum.Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur.

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