Where are experienced domainers of this forum?

[nuke007]

Before this website got new look and new management it had senior domainers discussing industry trends and giving advice to newbie’s. Lately I have noticed most of the old heavyweights (By Experience) have either left the forum or have taken back seat.

Now a days I see all request for advice goes unanswered. This forum seems to have become one way communicating forum. How can we improve quality traffic on this forum?

Thanks

[elevator]

I have waited for so long and I'longin to hear from them person like IMHO, DOHMEN and so on. Cheers.

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Yes some departures. I've sent a few PM's trying to stir the pot. A bunch of the guys had just drifted from being exclusively domainers and went on to do other things. Plus facebook and twitter really took over the general mindset of everyone in the world around the same time everything was changing around here. I've noticed the activity on a lot of forums has taken a backseat to social media. Bleh social media, sure it's great for working on a brand - but you're never gonna learn anything on facebook or twitter. In fact quite the opposite, I think it kills brain cells.

[elevator]

Yes some departures. I've sent a few PM's trying to stir the pot. A bunch of the guys had just drifted from being exclusively domainers and went on to do other things. Plus facebook and twitter really took over the general mindset of everyone in the world around the same time everything was changing around here. I've noticed the activity on a lot of forums has taken a backseat to social media. Bleh social media, sure it's great for working on a brand - but you're never gonna learn anything on facebook or twitter. In fact quite the opposite, I think it kills brain cells.

Cheers! You are among the old Pros who are still arround. Then which of the social sites can you recommend for good performance? Thanks & Thanks.

[nuke007]

Social media is changing and Facebook and Twitter have there own space. Both of these companies have had impact on people or industry. If Facebook has become instrumental for people or companies to create awareness, branding, connection and a window to sell product and services to millions of people at one platform. Where as twitter has changed the way we get information, now a days twitter will disclose news much before the mainstream media. So they have their own space to work.

Coming back to topic now I understand why I don;t see old members here on this forum. however I am concerned with the quality of discussion, response, or trading etc. Unless there is improvement i don't see traffic improving on this forum.

Regards

[elevator]

The available solutions, now that the old experienced are no longer available to bring up the newbies are: the usage of social sites, combine with consistent posting on relevant forums, can do wonders on development of domain/website and blogs. Cheers.

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Yes the real value comes from user's sharing their experiences and helping one another. There are still some old threads here that are very valuable. I reference them often.

Take ILikeInfo for example. That guy knew everything there was to know about the internet and how it was built. There was no better person to explain the hard structuring of the internet and how it worked. Even used to run his own zone files. (he'd prob laugh cause I'm not even really saying it correctly)

When you combined that kind of tech know how, with an interest in expiring domains - well I'll tell you those were the kinds of discussions that would leave your brain dripping with an overload of information.

Like I said though it's not just here. I haven't found anywhere in the last 2 years where experienced users are discussing expiring domains.

So the best solution I can offer is for you guys to fill the void. Put extra effort into learning the system. Pay attention to the moves ICANN is making and post them for discussion. Test the waters and share your experiences with expiring domains.

But remember the one thing that made this place vibrant was the honesty and no nonsense. There is a ton of fluff in this industry and plenty of people who will tell you what you want to hear.

But the truth hurts, and the truth is most domains are garbage and have no resale value. Don't get caught up in the hype!

elevator feel free to share my PM here in the forums if you'd like or if you found it helpful!

[elevator]

Yes the real value comes from user's sharing their experiences and helping one another. There are still some old threads here that are very valuable. I reference them often.

Take ILikeInfo for example. That guy knew everything there was to know about the internet and how it was built. There was no better person to explain the hard structuring of the internet and how it worked. Even used to run his own zone files. (he'd prob laugh cause I'm not even really saying it correctly)

When you combined that kind of tech know how, with an interest in expiring domains - well I'll tell you those were the kinds of discussions that would leave your brain dripping with an overload of information.

Like I said though it's not just here. I haven't found anywhere in the last 2 years where experienced users are discussing expiring domains.

So the best solution I can offer is for you guys to fill the void. Put extra effort into learning the system. Pay attention to the moves ICANN is making and post them for discussion. Test the waters and share your experiences with expiring domains.

But remember the one thing that made this place vibrant was the honesty and no nonsense. There is a ton of fluff in this industry and plenty of people who will tell you what you want to hear.

But the truth hurts, and the truth is most domains are garbage and have no resale value. Don't get caught up in the hype!

elevator feel free to share my PM here in the forums if you'd like or if you found it helpful!

Thank you for your caring support. Cheers

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You're welcome!

[jmcc]

Like I said though it's not just here. I haven't found anywhere in the last 2 years where experienced users are discussing expiring domains.

I think that the shift in this forum's design changed things somewhat. It went from a kind of information focused forum to one where the conversations were drowned out by domain sales threads.

The domain business has shifted considerably in the last few years and some people might have moved on or diversified.

But remember the one thing that made this place vibrant was the honesty and no nonsense. There is a ton of fluff in this industry and plenty of people who will tell you what you want to hear.

Sometimes, on other fora, it is a bit funny to have people lecture me on the values of TLDs like .co when I have about 581K of them tracked and am looking at a spreadsheet of a web survey of that shows over 54% of the surveyed .co sites being parked on PPC and approximately 14.49% developed. The fanboys seem to be operating on the principle that 100% of the sites are developed. Some of the snakeoil "web surveys" count PPC parked sites as active websites giving an artificially rosy view of development in TLDs.

But the truth hurts, and the truth is most domains are garbage and have no resale value. Don't get caught up in the hype!

Yep. I'm watching some of the mad US/CA speculation in .eu ccTLD from 2006 washing out of the .eu ccTLD. It was a classic example of how a poor registry/regulatory framework coupled with excessive and uncontrolled speculation kills a new TLD. Most new TLDs launched since then try to address the regulatory issues but they need speculation to gain traction in the market.

Regards...jmcc

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Yep. I'm watching some of the mad US/CA speculation in .eu ccTLD from 2006 washing out of the .eu ccTLD. It was a classic example of how a poor registry/regulatory framework coupled with excessive and uncontrolled speculation kills a new TLD. Most new TLDs launched since then try to address the regulatory issues but they need speculation to gain traction in the market.

Regards...jmcc

Hey jmcc, good to see a familiar handle! It shouldn't surprise me that years later i come back and find a new hot flavor of the month being shoved into your shopping cart at every registrar. I almost regged a .co by accident the other night because enom and godaddy are both relentless.

[theog]

Before this website got new look and new management it had senior domainers discussing industry trends and giving advice to newbie’s. Lately I have noticed most of the old heavyweights (By Experience) have either left the forum or have taken back seat.

Now a days I see all request for advice goes unanswered. This forum seems to have become one way communicating forum. How can we improve quality traffic on this forum?

Thanks

The site design of DomainState is not so good... I've tried to like it, but it is confusing and all over the place. I'd suggest consolodating several of the sections so you get people talking again... then spread them out as things get busier.

I agree with the social networking....

But I also think some moved on to different things when some of the money went away. I know my old domains were drawing a good buck and I was not doing anything (some crappy ones as well). Now I'm building and putting content on them...

The crazy people with more money than sense went with the economy. Remember how you could register ThisDomainSucksBigTime.com and someone would buy it for $100? Still happens, but not like before.

Wonder how many people are on facebook or moved on to developing apps (or the next crazy thing)?

Personally, I'd turn the front page of this site into a blog, and have the forum as a main link. Give people a reason to come here... heck, it can't hurt... this place is going downhill right now.

[jmcc]

Hey jmcc, good to see a familiar handle! It shouldn't surprise me that years later i come back and find a new hot flavor of the month being shoved into your shopping cart at every registrar. I almost regged a .co by accident the other night because enom and godaddy are both relentless.

At least there's a few of us old timers left.

Godaddy is the biggest registrar for .co at the moment. I'm not sure how the Landrush anniversary is going to work out. With these new gTLDs launching in the next few years, the same thing is going to be played out again and again. However the .co registry's marketing of .co has been brilliantly effective. But if any new gTLD is targeting the US/Canadian market and it doesn't have Godaddy as a lead registrar, then it might as well not launch.

The other interesting thing is how Frank Schilling's internettraffic.com has chopped so many premium keyword domains from the main PPC companies. It even got around 700 of the tracked .co domains.

Regards...jmcc

[gpmgroup]

Still check the sales threads for good names but not like before. Like jmcc and theog really don't like the new format, plus it loads too slow and there's way too much clutter I don't want or need to spend time browsing. I've tried to get used to the new style but the effort/reward ratio just doesn't work for me.

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Wow, all kinds of you guys coming out of the woodwork!

Now I'm building and putting content on them...

The crazy people with more money than sense went with the economy. Remember how you could register ThisDomainSucksBigTime.com and someone would buy it for $100? Still happens, but not like before.

I've been doing the same, content is definitely where it's at, and well where it's always been. But today for us more than it used to be. Yes those were the good old days. At any given time you knew if you really had to you could liquidate a few names and get yourself some quick cash. Now put a name up for sale that's not Grade A and listen for the crickets.

At least there's a few of us old timers left.

For that I'm grateful, I know there's quite a few others - good to see theog and gpmgroup jumping in!

Oh and remember when godaddy was the unofficial champion of the little guy. Taking on the big bad network solutions and winning for all of our sakes?

Now look at them, they've become the beast they slayed. Hell, they even jacked their prices. I bet they won't be happy til .com's are back to $35 or $70 a year.


Back to the reoccurring them of the thread however. As we see there are some of the experienced domainers still hanging around, but that's not necessarily the issue. I believe in the past, there were tiers of users. The masters, the mid level players, and the new entrants. Between the 3 groups there was always a lot of questions and discussion.

It used to be easy to hop into a discussion and learn something because at any given time there was multiple threads going that enabled new users to ask questions. Now since the threads aren't there, the new users have very few questions to ask besides. "How much is this name worth?" or "Who wants to buy this name?"