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  1. #1
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    Angry Thread Jail and a word of advice...

    Hey,

    I was in a rush and didn't read the rule that states "you must have atleast 1 domain in the subject line." Was kind of pissed to see it, but I understand why you did it. Word of advice?

    Don't take offense to this, but in www.namepros.com, when you put your curser over a thread title, a little script actually shows the first few sentences of the thread! So you can see the first few domains for sale in just about every thread without actually clicking on em!

    Your choice whether or not you want to impliment it, I just think it makes more sense.

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    I think the idea was that some were very "creative" about wording their titles such that everyone would read the thread. By putting a domain in the title it is immediately obvious if the thread is worth reading or not.

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    Yes you must have been in a rush.

    Not only did you miss the rule when you read the rules prior to joining, you missed it in the sales forum header and also when you created the sales thread missed this quite prominent reminder located under the subject box: Note: Please include at least one domain in the subject line as per the site rules.

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    The thread "tip" thing wouldn't really alter the need for a domain in the title - it's still a lot easier for members *and admin* if the domain is in the title than it is to scroll over each thread.
    When using google for counts - use double quotes for usage counts for multiword terms and set "match type" to "exact" for all search volume lookups. Click here for more info

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    K folks,

    It is your site, after all, so you may run it as you choose best.

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    I'm actually very thank of the rule. A poster is inclined to post the best domain in their list so as to entice people to read the whole thread. This mean it's easy to spot a sales post that's not worth further review.

    On the flip side it also means that one needs to get into the forums often in order to nab the better deals before someone else does.

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    Re: Thread Jail and a word of advice...

    Originally posted by mai

    when you put your curser over a thread title, a little script actually shows the first few sentences of the thread! So you can see the first few domains for sale in just about every thread without actually clicking on em!
    the problem with that is that some people then add lots of

    ..

    ..

    ..

    to their posts so that the domains don't actually show up

    probably the same people who use misleading thread titles in the first place.

    Also I think that feature requires vb3, which would mean the admins having to redo all the feature hacks on this forum, which is probably not worth the hassle when the forum works well as it is.

    just my $0.02

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    That is true,

    You don't ALWAYS know what people will write on the top few lines, could even be jibberish.

    Just seems like a nighmare to have to moderate such a system. I mean, just look at the number of threads in jail!

    I'm on a lot of forums, so usually the stickies are common sense things like "don't post domains you don't have" and "play nice fellas." Yeah I made a mistake but it all just seems kinda... nevermind.

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    I'm on a lot of forums, so usually the stickies are common sense things like "don't post domains you don't have" and "play nice fellas." Yeah I made a mistake but it all just seems kinda... nevermind.
    People learn from their mistakes, all it costs the poster is to recreate (copy and paste) it with the domain in the title.

    We really couldn't make it any clearer - there are reminders all over the site including a big one right next to where people type the title in for their post.

    The rules are the only cost to playing here, and they're all there for a reason - sometimes not immediately obvious, but trust me none of the admins like having to police these things but the few who take things to the extreme mean we have to.
    When using google for counts - use double quotes for usage counts for multiword terms and set "match type" to "exact" for all search volume lookups. Click here for more info

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    Originally posted by mai
    Yeah I made a mistake but it all just seems kinda... nevermind.
    Thread jail is interesting. It's definitely disconcerting, but its a little better than "deletion".

    The mods have gotten flack about creating rules and not really enforcing them. From personal experience, I know they're very considerate, and have a tough job to do. You can always start a new thread done right.

    YOUR THREAD: .=:':=. Great domains for sale .=:':=.

    --is probably one of the most generic titles you could pick for your thread. Folks have no idea what kind of names you're posting. Even implementing the rollover preview isn't necessarily a solution. I like the way the forum is run.

    ~ Nexus

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    Thread jail is interesting. It's definitely disconcerting, but its a little better than "deletion".
    Right, the jail is there so people can see why their post was removed and so they can copy and paste from the post body when reinstating the thread.

    When people have to post a domain in the title it makes sense for them to post the best domain if there is a list of them - and that can help get more real interest than "salesy" titles do as we have all likely had a negative viewing experience with those kinds of titles on ebay etc.
    Last edited by safesys; 01-14-2005 at 03:33 AM.
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    This is the best forum setup ANYWHERE.

    I hate the tooltip thing because the page size is HUGE and SLOW because part if the 1st post of EVERY thread is loaded into it EVERY time just to make this work! I don't need every possible detail about the entire system and every thread and every use on EVERY page... most forums just go WAY overboard on that stuff.

    I never appreciated this forum more than this summer when I was on a shared DSL line at an internet cafe in the Belize jungle. Other forums were simply useless.
    The only reseller brave enough to post prices: TheNameStore.com

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    Originally posted by JuniperPark
    This is the best forum setup ANYWHERE.
    Agreed. I owe a lot to Domain State and to it's members. Thank you all!

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    Originally posted by Nexus

    YOUR THREAD: .=:':=. Great domains for sale .=:':=.

    --is probably one of the most generic titles you could pick for your thread.
    ~ Nexus
    I like how you took the time to locate, copy, and paste my thread's title when I admitted to what I did wrong; It's kind of like rubbing it in my face in a euphemistic way, ya know?


    But you're right about how it shows the quality of the domains. I just thought by incorperating a script you wouldn't have to do so much policing; that was supposed to be the point of this thread, to make it easier and less of a hassle. An 'IMO' type tip if you will. Anyway, have fun with your forum.

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    Originally posted by mai
    I like how you took the time to locate, copy, and paste my thread's title when I admitted to what I did wrong; It's kind of like rubbing it in my face in a euphemistic way, ya know?
    Mm. The thread is about your recent experience and your reaction to it. I took the time to look at the thread that was jailed to see it from your perspective. Looking at the thread, I can see how it was a perfect example of the non-descript threads that caused problems.

    Check out these threads:
    Domain names in title
    http://www.domainstate.com/showthrea...threadid=33230
    Thread removed?
    http://www.domainstate.com/showthrea...threadid=23045
    Warning: Threads will be deleted.
    http://www.domainstate.com/showthrea...threadid=18859

    The most important points to glean from these:

    > The requirement insures that the SALES RULES were read completely. This is important. Implementing an "auto-preview" helps the convenience issue, but ultimately makes people lazy.
    > Helps identify fraud offerings, combining username and domain names on the same page for quick analysis.
    > Nameless threads are usually USELESS. As Juniper noted:
    My immediate thought it that it sounds like eBay, and the very reason most us stopped buying there... just wading through the titles that are mostly meaningless to the name. Everything becomes "awesome" and "must see". - JuniperPark

    Check them out. I'm all for suggestions and feedback. I'm taking some time to give you some feedback so you can possibly make more informed suggestions. Joining in January, I think its fair to assume your just beginning to look around. Just takes a bit to understand the effort to keep the chaos out.

    I really do hope you enjoy DS!
    Originally posted by mai Anyway, have fun with your forum.
    We're all the guests of three very nice guys... hope you have fun too.

    ~ Nexus
    Last edited by Nexus; 01-14-2005 at 08:46 AM.

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