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  1. #31
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    No specific reason, but most probably I am the person who brought it to their attention, wich does not obligate them to do any business with me of course.

    At the time I assumed they weren't familiar with what I proposed so I thought I made a good chance. But obviously they did their homework and/or made a deal with some other company.
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    does anyone here want to hazard a guess as to how much PPC profit they could make per day? Obviously there are no real benchmarks to make it anything more than a pie in the sky guess, but im curious as to what you think.

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    Probably more than any of the largest domainers around.

    Just my guess.
    Your domains are never completely worthless. They can always be used as a bad example.

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    Originally posted by draqon
    does anyone here want to hazard a guess as to how much PPC profit they could make per day? Obviously there are no real benchmarks to make it anything more than a pie in the sky guess, but im curious as to what you think.
    OVT
    Myspace.com 13500K Myspace.cm 27K
    Google.com 5143K Google.cm 23K
    yahoo.com 4416K Yahoo.cm 9K
    So lets say they get typo traffic 2/1000 of all .com type-in traffic. I would say $8-digit per month profit...

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    Ahh what a soap box.
    At least they should hire a designer to make the pages a bit more attractive......


    Peter

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    # By Appolinaire NOUMBI | Aug 09, 2006, 04:31 pm PDT | Link

    Thanks! a lot John for your information.
    I’m french speaking cameroonian. Cameroon like canada is bilingual country (french and english). i do hope my english level is not so bad.

    I want you or another person to help me understand better a problem. A state owned company camtel. see www.camtel.cm is in charge of the domain name .cm

    Are you saying that camtel has given the responsability to another company in the world.

    to use .cm extention, so that when i type www.noumbi.cm or www.google.cm, i see a commercial page as i’m seeing now?

    Even if it is the case! The Federation of cameroon engineers association, (i’m the chairman), member of cameroon civil society network, iis not satisfied, and here are our arguments against the .cm deal.
    ----------------------------------------------
    after www.noumbi.cm or www.google.cm,
    and after faq link at the botton of the page, this what i can read.
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    What is this service?

    Acting pursuant to the authority of the sovereign Republic of Cameroon, this service uses Unregistered Cameroon domain names (Unregistered domain names that end in “.CM") for the purpose of facilitating information and advertising. Anyone who attempts to access an Unregistered Cameroon domain name will be directed to this service.
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    1-Cameroon does not have a direct benefice. There is no specific link selling cameroon image.
    2- There is no direct link to camtel, the company responsible of the .cm extension management.
    3- I don’t see the adress of the company. Can some one tell me the company responsible of this utilisation. I want to contact them directly, so that they can give us the name of “the authority of the sovereign Republic of Cameroon,” they are talking about.
    4- the extension .cm has only 188 website . We are struggling since 2 years to help poors company, organisation in cameroon to register their domain name and even give them free website so that they can be present on internet
    5- Tomorrow, we will try to contact Camtel administrator to learn more.
    6- We want as an ngo, to receive 2% of the money coming from this .cm topic worldwide to help small size companies in cameroon to have their domain name.
    7- i take my personal case. my personal website is www.noumbi.org. I would have prefer to have also www.noumbi.cm in my control. It was not possible for me, because .cm registration cost here more than 600us$. is this normal?
    in germany .org cost me less than 5us$
    8- internet for many cameroonian, means a systhem for young black cameroonian girls to look for white husband using i love you via the web websites. many young girls don’t work any more. they don’t go to school for the same reason. every day, you see some of them, Hidden behind bad quality curtains, “fighting in from of few webcam in cybercafé, to send “bad” pictures to their lovers abroad” in order to receive few us$ dollars via western union instant money transfert union to receive few dollars. Some of theses girls, have more than 90 net-lovers worldwide. Some have the opportunity to find husband abroad, using tgis technique. But they are very feww. Even married women are seen in cybercafés at one am in the morning, while the cameroonian husband is sleeping taking care of the children, while madam is doing business in cybercafés, with webcams.
    As the result of this situation. For a population of 15.000.000 cameroonian, more than 14.800.000 , think that internet is not a good think.
    We , cameroonian engineers want this situation to change. Internet can be use to give
    free education to all, help them how to do télé-work, télé-translation etc…
    If you where cameroonian engineer, will you be happy of the situation. this is why you should help us. Please. Even a gift of 1 us dollars can help.
    -------------------------
    Any how, some thing should be done, and i need the help of everybody.
    For example.
    1-we want to launch a hudge programm in cameroon.
    [15.000.000websitesfor each of you] with .cm, or .Com or .org
    extension for small size companies in cameroon. If some body can help, we will appreciate.
    Thanks a lot to you all.
    2- Another project is [one children, one our in front of a connected to internet computer, at least one our per year] , in cities or rural areas.
    With this second project, we want to drive out the Cameronian girls and the Cameronian old women who give up husband and children, who monopolize the few rare computers of the some rare cybercafés available for bad reasons, in order to give the place to the young schoolboys, orphans or children having poor relations who will be able then under our supervision, to use the worldwide Web to discover the good side of Internet, which educates, which makes it possible to discover the world with few expenses.
    i’m sending this post from yaoundé. it is now 23.24 gmt.
    i believe , internet can help the world to be a better place for every body.
    In conclusion to my post.
    [We, believe that, .cm extension should help develop internet in cameroon, instead of being used as now, to redirect people to comercials website else where, and not in cameroon.]<u>
    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman, Federation of cameoonian Enginnees Organisation. tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com
    # By Ram Mohan | Aug 09, 2006, 05:26 pm PDT | Link

    Mr. Noumbi,
    Given that you have a position of responsibility in your country, you don’t really need the approval of anyone else outside of your country to change the policy of your ccTLD registry.

    If you would like to change local policy, you should connect with your country’s registry provider (camtel) and your country’s Government Advisory Committee representative, who is:

    Mr Norbert Nkuipou
    Director of the New Information and Communications Technologies
    Monitoring Unit
    norbert.nkuipou@ties.itu.int

    according to the ICANN GAC website.

    Regards,
    Ram
    # By John Berryhill | Aug 09, 2006, 05:28 pm PDT | Link

    Mr Noumbi,

    One must keep the perspective that the internet is simply a computer network. As a social force, it is what people choose to make of it. Human nature remains more consistent than technology, and some professions are much older than engineering.

    I believe you will find that Camtel is receiving a share of the revenue from the advertising, and your suggestion that such revenue be used for socially beneficial purposes in Cameroon, however one might choose to define that, is certainly a good idea. Presumably, as Camtel is a government agency, then by at least one definition of “socially beneficial” then we might presume that the revenue is being used according to the degree to which the Cameroon government represents the political will of its people.
    # By Ram Mohan | Aug 09, 2006, 05:29 pm PDT | Link

    Oh, and in addition, you could chat with your local Internet Society (ISOC) chapter - they may have an opinion on this, and may be able to help you.

    Area:Cameroon
    Name:Internet Society Chapter of Cameroon
    Contact:Vitalia Mungvi Ngala
    Email:vi_ngala@yahoo.com
    Web site:
    Notes:Chartered April 2000

    Source: ISOC website
    # By Appolinaire NOUMBI | Aug 10, 2006, 12:12 am PDT | Link

    Hi every one!
    Hi John!
    Hi Ram!
    Thanks for these informations.
    i will do my best to
    follow the file.
    Each another help will be welcome.
    In our organization, we believe that the best help is not dollars, but good ideas as those you’re giving us
    Have a nice day!
    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman, Federation of Cameroonian Engineers Organisation, for Global Development.
    tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com

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    Dear All! escuse me for my former post.
    Read it. i 'm a new forum member. It was a mistake to copy text from another forum and send it here without arrangment.
    We really want the situation to change.
    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman, Federation of Cameroonian Engineers Organisation, for Global Development.
    tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com

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    Not sure what anyone here can do.

    I think the writing is on the wall: Canada, China, Cameroon .. Governments are clearly demonstrating that the US does not if fact control the internet and we should expect many more governments to demonstrate their understanding that the US and ICANN can be easily ignored.

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    I think if you want to do something about it, getting the Cameroon government to investigate whether this is in breach of their contract and whether there are any domestic legal ramifications re trademarks and potential misrepresentation would make sense.
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    .cm domains seems to be down here. can anyone update on this?

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    camtel.cm is working, but looks like the wildcard has been removed...
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    Latest!

    i'm have had a telephon contact with Antic, thet is deciding on every thing on this subject.

    I have a meeting with them today.

    You will have a worldwide breaking news on this topic.


    We really want the situation to change.
    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman, Federation of Cameroonian Engineers Organisation, for Global Development.
    tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com

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    You might want to get the government to do a redelegation request through IANA/ICANN, to change the managers of .cm if you think it is being mismanaged. See:

    http://www.iana.org/cctld/redelegati...ew-09jul05.htm
    George Kirikos - (416) 588-0269

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    Plus, they should update the info at:

    http://www.iana.org/root-whois/cm.htm

    Because some of the info is invalid (e.g. http://www.info.camnet.cm/ does not work).
    George Kirikos - (416) 588-0269

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    ” worldwide Breaking news “
    Latest!
    hi all!
    I am writing from Yaoundé, capital of Cameroon.
    It is now 2h35gmt.
    I’ve received in my differents emails box, more than 300 emails of congratulations and so on!
    This is one of the best of these emails! it is from President Tom Barrett
    President
    EnCirca, Inc see: <a href="http://www.encirca.com" title="Encirca website">www.encirca.com</a>
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    First, my reply!
    ----------------------------------------------
    Ok sir!
    it is a honour for me to receive a mail from a president of a company like yours!
    Please sir i want to be sure that you're really the person you’re saying.
    this is my personnal web site
    www.noumbi.org
    can i know more about you.
    i 'm preparing a statement to all the companies in the world that can help Cameroon have a profit on this .cm project!
    We also want to be sure that each Cameroonian, and even each poor person all over in usa, should have a share on the biznes.
    We have seen that via television after the massive destruction of flood in louisana, that poverty is every where on this planet.
    our civil society want to hire companies worldwide to sign a charity business type contract to help our country. We want people like you, bill gates, georges sorros, Koffi Anan, bill Clinton to help us! Every body must help. Georges Bush, Jacques Chirab, Fifty cent, Opprah winfrey, Michael Jordan! Naomi Campbell, Zinedine zidane, smuel ett fils, Roger Milla, Chantal Biya, Pauf Fokam Kammogne, Victor Fotso, Paul Biya, Abdoulaye wade, great people in japan, china, noth korea, Gaza, Iran, Nigeria, RDC
    We trust nobody now! But we trust every body, be it poor or rich.
    Com should disappear In the language of internet. Cm should leave for ever!!! This is the message of civil socity people of Cameroon.
    sir while waiting for your reply!
    please contact me for any type of help
    what is the url of your company sir?
    www.encirca.com may be! i will have a look
    write to me as often as you may want!

    Thomas Barrett - EnCirca <tbarrett@encirca.com> a écrit :
    Dear Appolinaire NOUMBI,
    I do NOT think you should stop the wildcarding of the .cm top-level domain. Do not listen to people saying this is bad or gives cm a bad name.
    Cameroon is not to blame for receiving traffic at the .cm domain. This is an opportunity for Cameroon to generate money to help improve your country.
    I operate a wildcarded top-level domain under .pw. I would be happy to help you make minor changes so that you can keep it running without criticism.
    Best Regards,
    Tom Barrett
    President
    EnCirca, Inc
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    As I was saying, people of Cameroon is proud to receive this gift from got and from all the people that created internet. <u><em><strong>[I was thinking last year of the project named, humanweb. A man ic powerfull than a machine. Can I be connected to the world wide web without any electronic device? I’ m sur this willl be possible in the future. I hope god will enables me to live long to part of that century.]</strong></em></u>

    <u><em><strong>[100 us$ computer is not a good project. We want 1 us$ computer project.]</strong></em></u>

    This is our dream from Cameroon.



    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman,
    tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com

    We are proud to inform you that every body will have the possibility to use the extension.cm.

    I’m so tired!!!! Oh god help me!

    <u><em><strong>Escuse me, I will send in another post the French version of the official statement. We are preparing to deliver.

    The good version will comme tomorrow.</strong></em></u>

    contact: Appolinaire NOUMBI
    Chairman, Federation of Cameroonian Engineers Organisation, for Global Development <u><em><strong>[worldwide.] new!!!
    [FCEO-GLODEV-WORLDWIDE]
    </strong></em></u>
    tel (237) 760 20 77
    (237) 991 76 24
    email: solidmaison@yahoo.com

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