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  1. #196
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    Originally posted by GeorgeK
    You can see today's numbers at:

    www.dailychanges.com

    http://www.dailychanges.com/detail/?...es=21294&act=n

    (over 21,000 new names, 6th most active on the list)

    Other domain tasters were even more active, though.
    Looks like we're just not trying hard enough.

  2. #197
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    Originally posted by GeorgeK
    Greg: subg posted above that NSI is monitoring the boards (presumably here, Slashdot, and the other places covering the story). They might be deleting some of the names.....or it could be a time of day thing, depending on what time the zone files Jay uses are published.

    They still have verizon-should-sue-us.com registered, so they didn't get them all, if they're manually deleting them. Plus there were GoDaddy names on the list.
    I don't think they're deleting anything. http://network-solutions-kicks-godaddys-ass.com/

    So it must be a cut off time issue. Tomorrow should be colorful.

  3. #198
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    We should hold a contest for the most creative domains.

    Here's my entry: http://this-domain-is-not-available.com/

    It juxtaposes the domain "this-domain-is-not-available.com" with NSI's statement "This Domain is Available -- Get it now!"

    I'd love to see how other domain artists, and especially the .mobi fans, incorporate the "The future is on mobile web sites" at the bottom-right of the page.
    George Kirikos - (416) 588-0269
    I'm a domain buyer. Please use the contact form on my company website to submit lists of domain names. If a matter is urgent, please telephone me instead.

  4. #199
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  5. #200
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    "Registrar shall abide by any ICANN adopted specifications or policies prohibiting or restricting warehousing of or speculation in domain names by registrars."
    Yes, the RAA says that.

    Now, if you could provide a pointer to the relevant "ICANN adopted specifications or policies" with which the registrar is to comply, you'd have something.

    I will make a public pledge to comply with any ICANN adopted policies prohibiting domain registrants from eating cabbage.

    So?

  6. #201
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    surely for ICANN any cabbage eaters would be cannibals

  7. #202
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    Originally posted by Rob
    surely for ICANN any cabbage eaters would be cannibals
    I don't know whythat's so funny, but I can't stop laughing about it.

  8. #203
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    http://www.nsi-is-losing-business.com/

    http://nsi-will-go-bankrupt.com/

    They have not learned their lesson yet but I am sure they will awaken to the nightmare they have created for themselves.

    I wonder what their revenue line will look like at the end of the month... Not counting subscription based revenue of course.

  9. #204
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    I just sent the following email to the ICANN GA list, addressed to the Board:

    --- start letter -------
    Hi folks (especially lurking ICANN Board members),

    According to the Registrar Accreditation Agreement, section 4.3.4:

    http://www.icann.org/registrars/ra-a...nt-17may01.htm

    4.3.4 A specification or policy established by the ICANN Board of Directors on a temporary basis, without a prior recommendation by the council of an ICANN Supporting Organization, shall also be considered to be a Consensus Policy if adopted by the ICANN Board of Directors by a vote of at least two-thirds of its members, so long as the Board reasonably determines that immediate temporary establishment of a specification or policy on the subject is necessary to maintain the operational stability of Registrar Services, Registry Services, the DNS, or the Internet, and that the proposed specification or policy is as narrowly tailored as feasible to achieve those objectives.
    I believe with NSI's recent actions, one can argue that ICANN needs to step in to maintain the operational stability of Registrar Services. If NSI is permitted to continue their behaviour, other registrars will be compelled to do the same, monkey-see, monkey do. That would be instability, a disruptive change of registrar services from the status quo.

    To define it as narrowly as possible, one can simply make the policy/specification be that the ICANN fee is non-refundable even during the add-grace period. One can specify it is established for a period of 90 days, and renew it for up to a year. One needs a two-thirds majority of Board members to establish a temporary consensus policy in this manner. By the end of the year, the GNSO council would probably have a consensus policy via the PDP in the right direction, to support the temporary policy enacted by the Board.

    The time for inaction is over. As Vint might say, "Make it so."

    Sincerely,

    George Kirikos
    ------------------- end letter ---------------

    Worth a shot. The worst they can do is say "no."
    George Kirikos - (416) 588-0269
    I'm a domain buyer. Please use the contact form on my company website to submit lists of domain names. If a matter is urgent, please telephone me instead.

  10. #205
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    Originally posted by GeorgeK
    The time for inaction is over. As Vint might say, "Make it so."

    Sincerely,

    George Kirikos
    Thank you George!

  11. #206
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    Originally posted by Stratagenix
    Thank you George!
    ICANN should think of all the positive PR they would get by doing this --- it would be a windfall of goodwill for them.
    George Kirikos - (416) 588-0269
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  12. #207
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    Cartoonz

  13. #208
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    Originally posted by locos
    GK - I stand corrected. Thx.

    Btw, the doc is worded in a way that would imply that other registrars were actively using the AGP for a cart-hold. Let's assume that they were doing it with the clients permission and thus no PR stink, but who were they?

    I'd never heard specifically of a registrar that was offering this service (but then, I'm not the most informed).
    Originally posted by GeorgeK
    Locos: I'm not sure who they were -- Jothan of DomainSponsor might know, given he was the one collating the responses from the registrars.
    Register.com was the registrar who contributed that use with respect to the Findings Report from the DTWG.

    Their Cart-Hold is and always has been opt-in since they launched it many moons ago - I'd opine that this nuance may be why they have not been publicly flogged.

    There are probably others using cart hold as an opt-in ability since the report was published, as many registrars "take inspiration" for new services that they become aware of other registrars offering.

    ...I now go back to the manic pace of working with the team getting things ready for the DomainFest conference in Hollywood in a few weeks....

  14. #209
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    Originally posted by gregr
    The trouble is we're NOBODY. NSI doesn't give a crap about us. We don't use them. It's Joe Blow they're after.
    There are a lot more Joe Blows than domainers, you are correct
    oh mighty Gregr!!
    Last edited by HLK; 01-09-2008 at 03:37 AM.

  15. #210
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    Originally posted by HLK
    There are a lot more Joe Blows than domainers, you are correct
    oh mighty Gregr!!
    As the tumult rises, the average Joe will know the drill -- do not be surprised to see this on MSNBC.com or FoxNews.com if this practice keeps up and then everybody will be informed whether they understand it or not.

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