View Poll Results: Best Extension(s) For Investing? [May vote for more than one before clicking]

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  • .COM

    23 54.76%
  • .NET

    6 14.29%
  • .ORG

    1 2.38%
  • .INFO

    22 52.38%
  • .BIZ

    4 9.52%
  • .CO.UK

    5 11.90%
  • .DE

    3 7.14%
  • .US

    14 33.33%
  • .TV

    0 0%
  • Other (please specify below in thread)

    0 0%
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  1. #76
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    Originally posted by DomeBase
    Is that fact that people act on their expectations a methodological flaw or positive confirmation?

    Suppose that you did a poll of which stocks and other investments different people view as having the greatest potential for higher-than-market rates of return.

    (A) Further, suppose that you check and see that those people actually hold quite different stocks and other investments than they reported as good investments in the poll. I think a reasonable response would be suspicion of the poll results.... like analysts who promote one thing and do the opposite thing with their own money.

    or

    (B) On the other hand, suppose that you check and find out that those people actually hold exactly the stocks and investments that they reported as good investments in the poll. I would think this would be a positive signal of the polls validity... not something bad.

    For my two cents, I think (B) makes sense... and would be happy if this poll reflects people's actual domain portfolios.
    Good points dome. My view is that the poll at the moment is basically measuring what people currently own/or are buying.

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    Originally posted by safesys

    if we'd done this poll a couple of years ago its entirely possible .cc would have come out on top because a lot of domainers genuinely believed that it was the way forward. more domainers lose money than make money in this game - worth bearing that in mind when you interpret their views on the future
    I think thats true, .cc or .tv probably would have got strong votes if this kind of poll was done a while back.

    I think also it depends on where you asked the poll. If went to a German forum most would likely vote for .info or .de, go to a Chinese forum and a lot would likely vote for .cn.

    You're right to about more domainers losing that winning, in fact if you asked the general public a big % would probably tell you domains are a lousy investment generally

    Actually I think a poll of whether people have made a profit or loss from domains overall would also be quite interesting!
    Last edited by snoopy; 11-18-2002 at 05:41 AM.

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    Originally posted by snoopy
    Actually I think a poll of whether people have made a profit or loss from domains overall would also be quite interesting!
    Maybe we can do that also.

    I personally am behind due to fraud in the .INFO Sunrise which gutted .INFO LandRush 1. There were non-refundable pre-registration fees. I do not mind losing when I play a game. I do mind losing to people who break the rules without consequences. I am not alone in this. .INFO LandRush 2 was more fair and I did OK.

    On a non-personal level, there are important lessons from the .INFO roll-out for the roll-out of any new extensions.

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    ok I put up a profit/loss poll, should be an interesting one,

    http://domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&threadid=1205
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    hmm, the .tv traumatized diehards. Still can't recover from money losing experiences outside of dotcom.

    Okay, Peter Pan, continue to live in Never, Never Land.

    Just don't say nobody told you so.

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    Originally posted by mole
    hmm, the .tv traumatized diehards. Still can't recover from money losing experiences outside of dotcom.

    personally I never fell for the .tv hype either....

    the extension was always a sinker in my view just like the island itself,

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/2219001.stm

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    Dotcom is a deflating balloon, and achived in history forever in recent literature like dot.bomb: My Days and Nights at an Internet Goliath by David Kuo.

    Personally, I think the the dotcom era is fraught with too many dead bodies heaped miles high to warrant any future association with such an exuberant joke to people's lifelihood.

    Dotcom value will plummet, and its now up to ICANN to prove they can take away from speculators the privilege of artificial scarcity.

    From a communication standpoint, dotcom value is ruined (except for the few exceptions like Amazon.com). There's just too much baggage to start a new business off with.

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    If there was any stats to prove the newer extensions are having a meaningful impact on .com these kinds of arguments might have more substance. At the moment its all just opinion backed up by very little in the way of hard numbers.
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    Snoops, are you blind to the news and data that is accumulating all over the internet?

    Do I have to employ my time reposting facts and figures? Pay me US$100 an hour to answer to requests for evidential prove, and I may oblige.

    Meantime, if you need some quick answers for free, just check out all the reseller sites and how much .com names (some pretty good ones too) are going for because of lack of buyers willing to pay more then reg fee.

    Maybe you could do this for us. Do an analysis of dotcom value trends based on empirical evidence. Then maybe you can provide a convincing case for dotcom beyond the Peter Pan syndrome. I could be convinced.

    I need hard facts as to why dotcom hasn't diminished in value and image perception to VCs in the past 2 years. Business literature and economic sentiments tell me that if there is a better alternative, get out from the dotcom stink. Problem is, ICANN failed to deliver anything better than .info and .biz in their first round of gTLD releases. Still very relevant and powerful improvement to Old Economy .commercial, but mayhaps not good enough. A .shop extension will spell big trouble for the already faltering reseller value of .com.

    The evidence is mounting up so bad against dotcom resale value, its starting to be a joke. But of course, I am open to facts and evidence of why the Peter Pan syndrome is the right one.

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    mole, the majority of you points are just opinion, post up some stats to back it all up, otherwise its just the usual post after post of "nothingness" with these .com/.info/.biz threads.

    Regarding .com values they have decreased in value by a huge amount, probably up to 90-95%; so has every other extension (many such as .ws, .cc seem to have fallen by almost 100%!); no one is denying that.

    The entire Internet sector is in a huge slump and its got absolutely nothing at all to do with what extension a company uses.

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    snoops, your posts are also opinions on Peter Pan. Show me just one encouraging sign on why dotcom is not on the downhill. So far, nobody has. I have seen too many Interactive agencies that lived on dotcom hype die in front of my eyes. And many good friends lose their jobs in so-called high flying companies like DoubleClick.

    You may not be in the corporate world, Snoops. Unfortunately I am and my company deals with a many major MNCs like HP, Nokia and Sony.

    I don't think you understand the meaning of 'business sentiment'. Sorry if I come across as being above layman thinking. I should digress I think.

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    Originally posted by snoopy
    otherwise its just the usual post after post of "nothingness" with these .com/.info/.biz threads.
    That sounds condescending snoops.

    We are now in an evolving and transititional stage of the Internet's addressing history after 17 years, and you chose to relegate it to the pathetic role of "nothingness"?

    Many of the best brains and pioneers of the Internet as we know today were involved in this transition and you relegate them into "nothingness"?

    hmmm, looks like maybe this discussion should end. Mole, talk down when posting in future, you fool!

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    doubleclck's success/failured had nothing to do with the .com tld - it had to do with the way the internet as a medium was percieved.

    your "pay me to support my own argument" rebuff is wearing thin mole, if you make as many posts as you do for an argument it would be a common courtesy to back up what you are saying - and that means not a link to a single site or two or listing a handful of sales it means providing some kind of tangible proof that your comments about .com and also .info are grounded in reality.

    I don't see how anyone can look at the info reg numbers and end user activity, compare it to .com, and make the bald assertions you do.
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    Originally posted by snoopy
    mole, the majority of you points are just opinion, post up some stats to back it all up
    Haven't I? This selective absorption syndrome proves itself to be an empirical fact.

    You can give 10 facts and nothing seeps through the skull. Amazing.

    I am not being insulting here, but I think my efforts in common sense and factual evidence is wasted like pouring water over a duck's back.

    It's often difficult, if not impossible, to debate an issue on which chick looks the best when a person choses to close their eyes
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    It's time I turn the tahle (hate the thought). Give me stats and advice on why you think dotcom is not going downhill and help me out. I have a fabulous generic .com that I was keeping for my retirement/rainy day in Netsol and I would really like to get good money for it.

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    I guess if you ignore the fact that .coms still sell (details on public and private sites), the fact that they are still used by most major corporations and many members here make good money from pay per click from on-spec type ins on .com domains then there is no proof.

    Remember that all this is happening after the "shakeup" of the internet namespace by the introduction of the new tld's.
    Last edited by safesys; 11-20-2002 at 03:46 AM.
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