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    Lightbulb Are the new domain extensions really that usefull?

    I'm interested in getting feedback from people about how you think the newest domain extensions such as .info, .biz, etc. are playing a role on the Internet in todays wired world. I'm looking to get people's perspectives on how these new domain extensions are effecting businesses, organizations, and most importantly how normal everyday people are using them (if at all).

    In May of 2000, I started a domain name registration company based on the idea/concept that a domain name could help play a major role in a person's life in the area of self identity, expression, communication and even putting them on a path that was full of purpose.

    To give you a better understanding of what I'm talking about and what type of feedback I'm looking for, read the following article that I had published on Jan 15, 2003 about an actor who tried to use a .info domain name to get acting jobs.

    http://www.circleid.com/article/88_0_1_0_C

    I'm just wondering how previlent this usage of the new domain name extensions actually excist in the real world.

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    I can't see the point of that article. Other than him register a domain in .info after he couldn't get it in .com - what else is there in that article to serve as an example of anything? it refers to him as a "successful .info domain name owner" - is that successful as in he was able to fill in the form to register it?

    the article feels like it was written as an advertorial for your company

    the fact afilias are resorting to giving .info registrations away for free right now paints a picture for where the tld is at in the marketplace.
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    The new gTLD marketplace is still very, very small when compared to the older gTLDs.

    .info and .biz are just getting the smallest foothold and need much longer to evolve if they are not to go into decline. The introduction of further gTLDs will only serve to enforce the dominant position of the .com gTLD and thereby cause the decline of the new incumbents.

    Most of the proponents for further gTLDs cite choice through market forces as their over riding concern to mask their own interests through their industry involvement. However it is this perceived need for choice that will in fact ensure .com dominance.

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    as long as .com remains the first choice - then everything else is just a make do alternative. the more make do alternatives the market has, the more it devalues them - but not necessarily .com.
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    extenison doesnt matter unless you own top tier .coms that get true type-ins every other domain needs the search engines and the se's only seperate ccTLDS.

    I have Airlines (dot) Ws I "make do" as safesys says..
    Airlines.com gets thousands of natutral traffic everday through type-ins .. I have to "make do" (quite well actually) with thosands of unique visitors everyday from the se's.

    I own over 150 .Ws domains...all top keywords.. I'd have to spend inthe neighborhood of 50 million to own the comparable .com.

    For a fraction of the cost I can make just as much money as the .com can , I might have to a work a bit moreto land the same amount of traffic..but not that big of a deal..

    The searcher could care less what extension they land on.. in fact I'd best my last nickle that if Airlines.com and airlines.ws were next to each other in a search.. .Ws would get clicked on more than the .com .

    just playing on the natural curiosity of people.. dot.ws whats that ........... click

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    extenison doesnt matter unless you own top tier .coms that get true type-ins every other domain needs the search engines and the se's only seperate ccTLDS.
    thats to think as a developer/webmaster. real corporates have to consider retention in response to marketing campaigns which will include offline.

    For a fraction of the cost I can make just as much money as the .com can , I might have to a work a bit moreto land the same amount of traffic..but not that big of a deal..
    of course there you are comparing an unworked .com and a .ws you have to expend resources on for seo to get that traffic - and then its down to how much the domain actually matters compared to the other elements that pull the rank.

    btw, re airlines.ws - i notice the actual airline pages are constructed so as to look like they are pages for that company (no prominent mention of airlines.ws) and I suspect its those pages you get your traffic and revenue from - nothing to do with the domain.
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    Originally posted by safesys
    thats to think as a developer/webmaster. real corporates have to consider retention in response to marketing campaigns which will include offline.



    of course there you are comparing an unworked .com and a .ws you have to expend resources on for seo to get that traffic - and then its down to how much the domain actually matters compared to the other elements that pull the rank.

    btw, re airlines.ws - i notice the actual airline pages are constructed so as to look like they are pages for that company (no prominent mention of airlines.ws) and I suspect its those pages you get your traffic and revenue from - nothing to do with the domain.
    Safe we have had this debate the past 2 years..the facts are I have worked in over 9 different extensions..iyt makes NO difference ..nad nada nada... UNLESS ..the ONLY difference is if a .com is a top-tier .com that gets ALOT of type-in value..otherwise it make NO differnce.. Like I've said I have beedn at this a long time.


    I cant afford Airlines.com just like 99.999999% of the world. MOST corporations will think twice about forking the cash for Airlines.com ..


    First you need to take a deep breath and face the reality..you willnever ever own the top type-in names..once you get past that then you either play the drop game or you build ..

    I build and if I were ever to screw up and forget to renew Airlines.ws and somehow you picked it on the drop.you'd be in here telling everyone what a great pick you got.... and you'd be telling the truth !

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    Not sure what your point is though - what you are saying is that for webmaster level development the tld doesn't matter.

    no argument there.

    more tld's, the more choice webmasters have.

    but .com isn't bought for seo - so what dilutes the alternatives doesn't dilute .com. and to conclude that only those with high traffic are valuable is very non-corporate thinking.
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    So to answer domainpurposes question:

    Are the new domain extensions really that usefull?

    Yes ...very very useful

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    Yes ...very very useful
    for developers/webmasters.

    but not valuable as any tld will do for seo if you use seo bait content - as bid has proven.
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    Originally posted by safesys
    Not sure what your point is though - what you are saying is that for webmaster level development the tld doesn't matter.

    no argument there.

    more tld's, the more choice webmasters have.

    but .com isn't bought for seo - so what dilutes the alternatives doesn't dilute .com. and to conclude that only those with high traffic are valuable is very non-corporate thinking.

    .com isnt built for seo ? EVERY .com like every other extension needs marketing/SEO to be successful.. UNLESS it is a high type-in like Airlines.com

    Who cares what major corporations are doing...I'm not a major corporation nor is 99% of the deveolped websites..they belong to the mass of small business and indididuals

    non corporate thinking....damn right ..I want to actually make money instead of stuck in a suit all day

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    Don't get me wrong, i like the airlines.ws site - I can see how it would work - but its nothing to do with domains.
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    Where is mole's comment?

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    .com isnt built for seo ? EVERY .com like every other extension needs marketing/SEO to be successful.. UNLESS it is a high type-in like Airlines.com
    ah, you've added "marketing" now - which broadens it to retention and referral as opposed to just seo.

    its mainly webmasters that think only in terms of seo, even small/mid sized businesses need offline marketing. and therein lies the problem - the moment people don't just click a link to access your site the tld becomes important.
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    Originally posted by safesys
    for developers/webmasters.

    but not valuable as any tld will do for seo if you use seo bait content - as bid has proven.

    Yawn.. your trash talk isnt convincing anyone.. you dont know what you are talking about safe..

    I'm amazed you are still stuck in this .com nonsense when it has been PROVEN to you over and over that extension does nor matter ..


    once again EVERY domain has to be marketed .. dosent mater if it's .com or .ws or .info .. they all have to be marketed .. if makes no difference..I know I have built in damn near all ofthem

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