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  1. #1
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    just bad news

    Nothing gets better, just worse. As if earnings werent pathetic enough, now we have to face the North American Spring summer traffic drop to put the icing on the cake. Couple that with browsers like firefox becoming more prevalent with ad blocking effectively blanking some landers, adwords customers blocking landers on domains, and the economy in general, I would say PPC has seen its apex and will probably never be what it was. It was a nice few years, but these situations combined with domainers traffic getting lumped together with junk traffic, DEV is becoming a must. We must adapt to the change, as reg prices rise, rev falls, it seems the world is out to get us.

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    you gotta exclude DS with this statement as their have managed to ignore the fact that their updates are not working and the results from sat are not even completed - so until we have the " real " results from sat and part of today - we can not for sure say this about PPC - maybe and just maybe , after DS gets finally their crap together , you will see results beyond your wildest dreams.

    sorry , Nex couldn't help it... ( and i hate to admit that you are right.)
    Domaining: the most Fun i have since i watched the Hogs eat my little Sister !

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    Originally posted by wolfis.com
    maybe and just maybe , after DS gets finally their crap together , you will see results beyond your wildest dreams.

    Perhaps true!

    I have a feeling that new DS management is very serious about their reputation among domainers and their earnings.

    I won't be surprised to see DS take a lead again (in whatever it takes) to get our earnings to the levels never seen before

    I am just starting to see things happening at DS again after a gap of almost 2.5 years.

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    Re: just bad news

    Originally posted by NexSite
    Nothing gets better, just worse. As if earnings werent pathetic enough, now we have to face the North American Spring summer traffic drop to put the icing on the cake. Couple that with browsers like firefox becoming more prevalent with ad blocking effectively blanking some landers, adwords customers blocking landers on domains, and the economy in general, I would say PPC has seen its apex and will probably never be what it was.
    Yeah, it may well be a cold winder in PPC land, then again if the general economic situation does improve it may well temper the falls compared to what we usually see. Personally I think this summer might mark the low point for PPC market, next few months probably won't be pretty.

    Originally posted by NexSite

    It was a nice few years, but these situations combined with domainers traffic getting lumped together with junk traffic, DEV is becoming a must. We must adapt to the change, as reg prices rise, rev falls, it seems the world is out to get us.
    I think in the coming 12 months we will see a lot of the 2007/2008 domainer development projects getting washed out of the system. In my view a lot of people have gone into development as a last resort a great deal of which will just make the situation worse for people in my view as they are taking on a lots of added costs. It can already be seen at the higher end with companies like banks.com and livecurrent gradually going under.

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    Re: Re: just bad news

    Great businesses are born from smart ideas that fulfill a need, and these good ideas often come spontaneously as we live life.

    Yet, domainers attempt to work backward from a great (or a good) domain to a great business concept. It rarely works. The chances of success are much higher for someone who creates a business around what they know (an idea born out of real live observations and experience) and then that person finds an appropriate domain name. The domainer approach is to stare at a domain name in an effort to deduce the proper business model. Or, the domainer approch is to order an employee or consultant to find a business for the domain, which is even more difficult. The truly great business ideas come when you're not trying so hard to think of a good business idea.

    Take away businesses that cater to domain owners and then take away businesses that simply use a good domain to collect information via a submission form, and how many truly great businesses have been formed around domains by domainers? Few....veeeery few...


    Originally posted by snoopy
    In my view a lot of people have gone into development as a last resort a great deal of which will just make the situation worse for people in my view as they are taking on a lots of added costs. It can already be seen at the higher end with companies like banks.com and livecurrent gradually going under.

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    What are peoples thoughts on the inclusion of "Additional Listings" on the search results page?

    The are obviously not sponsored, so I assume we get zero revenue from this addition? Perhaps terms with upstream Google? if so why have the "WebSearch Results" as well.

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    I feel that a large portion of holders haven't got the resources/time/impetus/knowledge to develop their portfolios, so we could see some major drops and/or bargain sales, coupled with less competition, as people 'jack it in'...

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    Revenue is cut in half yesterday

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    Re: Re: Re: just bad news

    Originally posted by Josh
    Yet, domainers attempt to work backward from a great (or a good) domain to a great business concept. It rarely works. The chances of success are much higher for someone who creates a business around what they know (an idea born out of real live observations and experience) and then that person finds an appropriate domain name. The domainer approach is to stare at a domain name in an effort to deduce the proper business model. Or, the domainer approch is to order an employee or consultant to find a business for the domain, which is even more difficult. The truly great business ideas come when you're not trying so hard to think of a good business idea.
    Wow, this could just be the truest and most insightful paragraph I may have ever read on DomainState.

    And it absolutely hits home -- in fact it kind of echoes some feelings I've had the past couple days in trying to hash out some of my own "development" ideas.

    "Working backwards" is probably destined for failure -- or at least unexciting results and at great cost.

    Really good food for thought.
    "Just when I thought that I was out, they pull me back in!"

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