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  1. #31
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    Originally posted by NexSite
    So the source just happens to be from a competitor of this very forum. IF you look, you will notice that the other place is very active, always being innovative, updating, and despite the fact they have a paid membership, their ranks have swelled.
    What on earth are you doing here ?
    (I can wait to hear your response...)

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    Yes, but people are already speaking about it, doubled revenue compared ds..
    All testers can not be wrong
    Like I said, as with any program, I'd reserve judgement until its out in the wild and being evaluated in volume.

    If they have raised the bar for parking, then thats great and it will have an impact across the board - but its way too early to determine that.
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    Originally posted by RobertF
    What on earth are you doing here ?
    (I can wait to hear your response...)
    This is getting off topic but I will honor bobs request.

    bob F , wait no longer. As you wish I shall respond. Being a domainer, of course I belong to many forums, use many registers, host at several places, etc.. I also bank at several different banks, shop at different grocery stores, same with gas etc... I also have a "paid" account at the other venue, and visit there regularly. I have learned a lot from "both" places. The link was edited because it contained the URL of the competition and I dont have a problem with that. I was pointing out to heather the PPC option with the "boob job" from my previous reply, was already in Progress somewhere. I just learned of it. I dont think these threads need to become link farms to the competition either, but Im sure most of us know where the " other" discussions reside by now. I wasn't intentionally "promoting" them, but perhaps I was ignorantly pormoting them. Sometimes I wonder if people think that by using the edit option some giant secret is going to be kept. Trust me, when that actually happens, everbody will know. Sure, its ok to talk about sedo, fab, Domain sponsor, domain hop, oingo/domainpark,(promote, promote, promote, promote, etc..) here at domainstate, but now there may be a new competitor in the PPC market that is aggressive and threatens to take a rather large chunk of the pie, as far as customers go, by claiming that domainers will get to keep more of the revenue generated by "their" traffic. Will this PPC Option have a "company specific" category with their name on it at domain state if they succeed in becoming a major PPC player? Considering the circumstances, I highly doubt that, or this thread may have been moved there without my knowledge. My commenting on the continuing development of another place is what it is, and my suggesting via innuendo that perhaps this place too could be a little more active and aggresive in efforts to "retain" and go after the competition is subjective. You can look at it as negative if you like but really its about saying hey, lets step up to the plate. I like both places, but one has changed considerabely and the other hasn' t changed much. The people that run the show here are top notch, treat us like one of them, and generally let us speak without using the edit option. They can certainly also handle a little constructive criticism as long as its not flagrant verbal abuse and they have. The landscape is changing, let's not pretend it isn't.

    Bit why am I here? Because of great people like you Bob. I enjoy replying to questions with endings like "i cant wait to hear your response".

    Sorry I made you wait so long.


    Safe I agree 100%. Talk is cheap. One big advantage of domain sponsor is the set it and forget it approach, self optimizing. Yes, we as customers sometimes bicker but hey, we do the same with our other service providers. Gas, electric, phone etccc, and PPC. They are providing a service. Still, I will not even consider moving if I have to "self" optimize, get every name manually approved, etc... i.e. take on a considerable workload. Im too busy. Those who say income "doubled" somewhere new, I think are being misleading as that would mean the upstream partner is not taking their cut yet. If you were getting half, and you double, didn't you just get it all? Yes, be very cautious and remember that privacy is worth something too. " All names will be monitored" Not sure what that means, but I dont want the same guy who banned me from a forum for challenging him looking over my domains and stats with impunity. Competition is always a welcome site but I agree with safe not to jump the gun. I was just trying to show DSp that the "gun" is loaded and pointed right at em, and the shooter is a dude with an itchy trigger finger. Could be a lot of casualties in a short period of time if they dont play their cards right, and they may have to show thier hand quick. I dont think this guy is bluffing.

    Cautious optimism I say.

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    I was just trying to show DSp that the "gun" is loaded and pointed right at em, and the shooter is a dude with an itchy trigger finger. Could be a lot of casualties in a short period of time if they dont play their cards right, and they may have to show thier hand quick. I dont think this guy is bluffing.
    I am sure that isn't lost on DS - its not like a new brand launching, it leverages on an existing one and forums are a great way to create "momentum" - and hype.

    I have no doubt that if adam puts his mind to it seriously (something I have no reason to doubt) then it will be a real contender - but its actual position in the scheme of things will be determined from how it performs in the wild.
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    Originally posted by safesys
    I am sure that isn't lost on DS - its not like a new brand launching, it leverages on an existing one and forums are a great way to create "momentum" - and hype.

    I have no doubt that if adam puts his mind to it seriously (something I have no reason to doubt) then it will be a real contender - but its actual position in the scheme of things will be determined from how it performs in the wild.
    Safe, I agree with you.

    Building hype is ok as long as you can deliver, otherwise hype can lead to negative publicity and loss of trust.

    I am keeping my fingers crossed and let time tell the tale.

    I think the biggest DS complaint that I have seen is stats problems and wide fluctuations of stats/earnings (with no explanations generally unless you keep emailing) almost all the time. If DS can fix that quickly its will sure help them.

    Btw, I like both forums a lot.

    Regards,

    Rick Kumar

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    Golly gee! A pay-to-post domain forum? Does that mean I have to have something valuable to post or otherwise I'm wasting my money? .
    Last edited by CrankyOldMan; 04-08-2005 at 09:57 AM.
    Going fishing, soon, I hope.

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    Naahhhhhh. You dont have to pay to post Cranky. You have to pay to read too. At least some things.

    Your only wasting your money if you don't know how to get anything out of it.

    Wait! Domainers wasting money? I didn't know that was possible? You would have to call it a learning experience, and thus, consider it well spent. I had a pretty long learning experience before I made any money, and that cost me way more than the price of a forum membership, but the education I got has paid off nicely.

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    I wouldn't pay to be a member of any club that would accept me Nex.
    Going fishing, soon, I hope.

  9. #39
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    Originally posted by NexSite
    [B I was just trying to show DSp that the "gun" is loaded and pointed right at em, and the shooter is a dude with an itchy trigger finger. Could be a lot of casualties in a short period of time if they dont play their cards right, and they may have to show thier hand quick. I dont think this guy is bluffing.

    . [/B]
    You have a funny way to words things: first a complement then an insult...
    "I like both places, but one has changed considerabely and the other hasn' t changed much. The people that run the show here are top notch, treat us like one of them, and <<generally>> let us speak without using the edit option'

    Do you really think DS a mulitmillion revenue producing company finds out about a "possible" new company thru non-sense threads like this ?
    I takes months/years for a PPC company to prove itself...
    at this point I call it a "squirt gun", if they also will have "geo-google" on their side , a significant better payout ratio but most important of all it will run "smoothly" (not one month but for a few months) as far as stats and server down times it might and emphasis "might" put real pressure in the months to come.
    I wonder how many affilate classes they will have ? : iron, brass cooper, gold, platinum, "arse kisser", "derriere kisser deluxe", zirconium, titanium ...dadda dadda da...
    You need to take your paranoia pill ASAP.
    Last edited by Domo Sapiens; 04-09-2005 at 08:04 PM.

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    Oh Bobby. Whats the F stand for? Perhaps you should go F yourself.

    You need to put your time to better use than looking for a F-lame job. From what I can tell, the "arse -kisser" level it seems would suit you fine.

    Whats the matter bobjob? Nobody else had a problem with my constructive criticism. Nobody said it was inflammatory. Nobody edited it. Nobody complained. Except you. If you really didn't want a reply then maybe you shouldn't say you cant wait to hear my answer. Safe responded professionally, never said a word or indicated any displeasure with what I had to say. Oh, wait a minute. So your saying its ok to compliment, but dont criticise? Or criticise, but dont compliment? Try that while raisng a kid and see what happens. Excuse me, but that just dont cut it, and you know that. There are plenty of things people do that desreve compliments while there may be others that may deserve a little different approach, and it's all based on opinions. If you cant handle a little criticism, or somebodys prompting to at least take a look and see whats coming, maybe you should go crawl back in your little protective bubble. I welcome all your comments you will get replies. //Mods Edit: This part removed. The language and associated insult is unacceptable. Refrain from both in future.\\
    Last edited by Matt; 04-10-2005 at 01:09 AM.

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    The PPC market is growing and will continue to grow for many years.
    We are in the early years of the curve.

    Therefore, more companies will want to get a piece of the pie.

    Adam will take a piece of it. But, will he take any market share away from DS?
    I doubt it.

    Overall, I am extremely happy with DS. Yes, they have growing pains.
    But, any industry that is growing at this pace will have some problems.

    Fortunately, they are trying to be innovative with their landing pages,
    internal systems and the data they supply to us.

    And, they are generally responsive to our communications.

    WE all can do better. And, I think they are trying to do that.

    Ok, where's my March check?
    (Just kidding.)

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    Thanks for your "constructive" remarks Act. Hey, I got my check yesterday. Not kidding.

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    Originally posted by NexSite
    [B]... It seems that boht DS and DSp should be working harder to retain members, not editing links, suppressing the truth, trying to stifle competition. [B]
    I just noticed this reply after your self reported post.

    I typed out a response to the above then remembered my own edit to one of your posts: //Mods Edit: This part removed. The language and associated insult is unacceptable. Refrain from both in future.\\

    Suppressing the truth, stifling competition - give me a break!

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    Originally posted by NexSite
    Link Removed. Rather tacky promoting other services on this forum - don't you think?
    That was in this thread Matty. You stated that it was "tacky promotion", which is presumptuous, basically an accustion, and your opinion, thus you edited it. If I were promoting it as you said, and you edit out my "promotion" it seems to me that would be "stifling the competition"? You could have said, "please do not mention or post links which contain the URL of our competetion, either as a convenience, or out of ignorance, as it appears you may be promoting their services".

    As I look at this, im trying to figure out if it was edited for

    A: "promoting" a competeting PPC option that will be available soon, ( i am not affiliated with them at all)

    B: Posting a live link that contained the URL of this forums competetor, (most likely suspect, and in hindsight, I probably should have known better)

    C: All of the above?

    I'll say it again. In reality, I was showing Ms Heather a link that kind of referred to the PPC with a "boob job" analogy that "we" referred to. I suppose I could have emailed that to her, and nobody would have been offended, and I wouldn't be accused of promoting whichever one it was that I was promoting, or offending whomever I was offending. In the ensuing conversation, it has become apparent to me that certain people around here have a major problem with some aspects of the other domain communities business plan, or personalities, for whatever reasons, and thus no mention of them and certainly no link or "positive" comments about them will be tolerated around here. I can read between the lines, and it's very clear that some "animosity" exists. I think I got the picture and I can live with that.

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    I think i have adt

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