ukaffiliates and tradedoubler are european

cj also has some european affiliates in their network

hello,

what about a business directory on premium generic .info domains - where people can list their web address for a small monthly/annually fee?

example:

if you get 500 people list their business on your site for and 19,90$/month to get listed

but how hard is it to get 500 people list their business on a site and would they pay 19,90 to get listed?

great in theory, but the premium generic .info's aren't getting type ins - so the site would have to develop an audience to appeal to advertisers.

its not impossible by any means and I'm sure we'll see a few of these springing up over the coming months with some serious seo work.

i think it will be easy to get, lets say 1000 shops to list their business on shop.info or shopping.info(not my domains) for example in the future


and what about a own ppc engine on the premiums in the future?
ppc software starts at 60$ and pro software at 399$

this could even bring more money than affiliates, and you dont have to fear if they pay you out?

Originally posted by techy


and what about a own ppc engine on the premiums in the future?


this could even bring more money than affiliates, and you dont have to fear if they pay you out?

I would say the problem there would be getting decent bids on keywords, lots of small ppc's out there without lousy bid levels.

Would you have the traffic to compete with overture or findwhat? Look at payperclicksearchengines.com and look at all the lower rung search engines and see the kind of bids and bid spread they are getting - then compare that to ov/fw. How do you think you would compare?

Why would the 1000 shops list on shop.info? people advertise to an audience - so you'd have to consider what size of audience shop.info would have in the future. For my money, I don't think it will be all that much inherently.

These are the kinds of questions you need to think about.

Like I've this very basic site guitars.info. If significant further work is done by somebody who knows what he/she is doing so that the site ranks well in popular search engines. Then, I believe there's good possibility of guitar-related businesses to go for paid ads/links on the site. There's some good work up-front but pay-off can be quite handsome as well. Any pro interested?

i think you dont need to compete with overture and findwhat if you start a good niche ppc.


if i had an onlineshop and could list my business for a small fee on shop.com shop.net and shop.info in a few years or at least i would give it a try. there are always enough people who would try it out

try it and let us know how you get on

Originally posted by safesys
Getting paid after agreeing a price

If they absolutely insist on escrow, escrow.com are a good company in general but its worthwhile making sure the email address they set the account up in matches the email account of the admin contact they've requested for the whois - this way if the buyer doesn't progress the transaction you can telephone escrow.com and have them do it.

Wouldn't it be more efficient as the seller to be the initiator at Escrow.com of a new transaction, after seller and buyer have agreed on price and terms such as who pays the escrow charges?

This way you get to enter the agreed terms precisely and the buyer's contact details accurately, without any potential mixups or delays resulting from a newbie using Escrow.com for the first time.

>>this way if the buyer doesn't progress the transaction you can telephone escrow.com and have them do it

Does this mean escrow.com can speed up the process somehow?

It's not a whole lot but I have had half a dozen transactions thru them so far. At the very begining, I told them that I've already negotiated that the buyer will pay the escrow fee. Since, they automatically initiate my transactions in that manner. I've have also made this kind of standard from the getgo to tell the buyer that he/she would be paying the escrow fee. The entire transaction (after the buyer submits the funds to Escrow.com) takes about 7-10 days; in 7-10 days, the $$ are in my bank account.

Yes fizz I always prefer to set up the transaction as buyers have a habit of setting long inspection periods if they do it themselves. They may still try to set it up anyway, so its a good idea to use a different email address for the escrow.com account to the one you use for mail contact with the buyer - this way they can't correctly set it up themselves.

But even if you set up the transaction, the buyer still has to give you their email address for the account - its this that you should ideally want to match the whois email address they want.

Yes escrow.com can speed up the process - for example, if you transfer ownership to the buyer and the buyer doesn't acknowledge it this can cause delays so you can phone escrow.com up and they will look at the whois details and the email address of the account (and the account name too) and progress it if its clear that you've done your bit and the buyer should have progressed it themselves.

so its a good idea to use a different email address for the escrow.com account to the one you use for mail contact with the buyer - this way they can't correctly set it up themselves.

Safesys, I'd appreciate if you could explain this a bit more.

Thanks.

Speculator, without good link popularity, you are not going to get much traffic, especially if you are aiming for generic keyword searches. You have to make sites, aim for lesser competed for keywords, get into dmoz and yahoo (both very important) and make a nice useful site that people will want to link too. One of the main reasons affiliate sites dont work well in se's is because no one considers them important enough to link to. Link popularity is very important in the final analysis for high rank everything else being equal.

For example, I have very simple sites at Guitars.biz, and Inks.info among others (which I'm always tweaking- sometimes I tweak it so much that its totally nonsensical! ). They all make more than reg fee every month (inks has done extremely well although this last month it got smacked around by google like many did - in fact, selling ink cartridges has got to be one of the most profitable things you can do online, they give you up to 60% of the sale - big moneymaker) but they will never do really well until I add interesting content so people will link to me and build my link popularity which increases rank (and of course interesting content gets bookmarked for return visits). I can aim for lesser keywords and get trickles of traffic, trickles that actually may be better conversions, but until I make a quality site, the traffic will never really grow.

So, you can do the affiliate thing but if I were you I would spend time with each site and make them interesting. They need to be to get links to you and to get into the directories. Its hard work and difficult if you have a lot of quality names like you do cause each one could be worked on for a month but I think in the long run its better to really do it properly and make a nice site instead of just throwing some affiliate links up. Better to go for content and information. I'll probably redo each one of my sites in time. Its a lot of work and learning but I guess the payoff can be great -probably much greater than a one off sale.

Anyways, good luck.

Tee, how are you planning on monetizing the traffic which is going to the site for the content and information? I ask because I've seen a lot of highly trafficked sites fail because they couldn't convert the traffic with the content they were using to draw them.

Speculator, what I mean is that if you use a seperate email address for the escrow.com account if the buyers tries to set up the transaction you can tell them its the wrong email account and set up the transaction yourself making sure that everything is done correctly.