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  1. #76
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    Originally posted by Ghuzz
    www.zales.com
    I assume you are talking about thier affiliate program?

    http://www.zales.com/corp/index.jsp?..._affiliate_txt

  2. #77
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    Originally posted by safesys
    UK ov : 75 (UK ov count generally correlates to a higher number of visitors than similar US ov's do)...
    That's interesting that there's a UK OVT for slimming.com but not US...maybe in the US the term weight loss is more frequently used?

  3. #78
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    weight loss is still the more common term here in the UK too - for just term lookups here gives:

    132018 weight loss
    18419 slimming

    yet weightloss.com only yields 33

    What I think it could be due to is the popularity of something called "slimming world" here ( UK 27411 term ov / 304 for the domain)
    When using google for counts - use double quotes for usage counts for multiword terms and set "match type" to "exact" for all search volume lookups. Click here for more info

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    Thanks safesys - very interesting.

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    I think we'd all agree DiamondRings.com is an outstanding generic two word domain. If it were Diamond.com (OVT 1831) the appraisals would all be in the same ballpark (based on traffic). If it were rings.com the appraisals again would be in the same ballpark (based on traffic).

    I think sometimes appraising a generic two-word domain can be tricky. Perceptions, and traffic stats tend to muddy the water. Clearly a jeweler could easily afford $100K for this domain. Would they want to? My guess is yes they would. They probably wouldn't be to concerned about traffic since they would have a budget to cover the costs of branding this domain.

    Once this domain was branded (think eHarmony.com). I grant you the traffic would be just as high, if not higher than Diamond.com for the simple fact "Diamond Rings are a Girls Best Friend---Go to DiamondRings.com...blah, blah". SO if you were to appraise this domain based soley on multiples of current traffic... You would be shorting selling this domain big time (IMHO of course)

    When doing appraisals on generic two-worders I always say look at the industry the domain is in first (Diamonds compared to say Coins) AND is it descriptive (DiamondRings.com compared to CoinCollector.com) because there is always some "group" or "industry leader" that will snap up your domain without so much as looking at traffic stats (if the name is descriptive enough). They would do this for two reasons 1) Make it appear they are industry leaders and 2) Make sure their competitor doesn't buy the domain.


    Hope that helps... and oh, I gave up trying to appraise names like this a long time ago. Traffic domains are easy, but generic two-worders are not... hence the reason we have honest appraisals all over the map.
    Last edited by izopod; 08-30-2006 at 05:44 PM.

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    Originally posted by izopod

    there is always some "group" or "industry leader" that will snap up your domain without so much as looking at traffic stats (if the name is descriptive enough).


    I think if you are assuming that there is enduser buyers around who would always pay more than a domainer might pay that is a longshot.


    They would do this for two reasons 1) Make it appear they are industry leaders and 2) Make sure their competitor doesn't buy the domain.

    Most enduser buyers of premium names seem to be the more middle and small sized companies from what I can see of it, not the industry leaders.
    GamesRoom.com, Possum.com, Arithmetic.com on greatdomains auction, low reserves, priced to sell!

  7. #82
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    Originally posted by snoopy
    I think if you are assuming that there is enduser buyers around who would always pay more than a domainer might pay that is a longshot.
    My assumptions are always based on the quality of the domain. Kind of like the quality of a diamond. If it were WhiteDiamondRings.com one would *really* be going long to say someone would pay $100K for it, especially if there was light traffic associated with it (currently). However, with DiamondRings.com, a generic product name that generates billions of dollars for a particular industry...you'd be safe to assume that someone in that industry would plunk down $100K for it.

    HOWEVER, nothing is a guarantee. Investors/End Users are starting to look at "traffic-ability". It does speak to the "fitness" of the domain. So although I or anyone else would "assume" somone in the jewelry industry would pay $100K for the domain, it's not a 100% guarantee, like Diamonds.com would be with huge traffic numbers. It's more like a 95% guarantee, noting that most Diamonds go on rings.



    Most enduser buyers of premium names seem to be the more middle and small sized companies from what I can see of it, not the industry leaders.
    I would agree. However there is always that industry leader like Proctor and Gamble (think household products) that understands the power of "key word dot com domains".

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    Would like to pick it up for no more than 100K but give us a deal here guy..how bout I take it off your hands for 10K haha! sweet dealer name

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    Are you the registrant of this name?

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    Me? ....of course

  11. #86
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    Just out of curiosity, how does the click through rate at the targetted lander at TrafficClub compare to the generic DS lander you had up 3 days ago?

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    The targeted landers always perform much better with my portfolio.

  13. #88
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    Originally posted by Matt
    Are you the registrant of this name?
    I was curious of the above as well

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    This was auctioned today and reported as sold for $162,000.
    GamesRoom.com, Possum.com, Arithmetic.com on greatdomains auction, low reserves, priced to sell!

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    Originally posted by snoopy
    This was auctioned today and reported as sold for $162,000.
    interesting thread going back to read through it... looks like you pegged it two years ago ($150K - $200K)... not sure how you were able to factor in the market decline though, ahead of the curve as usual

    didn't we have a thread asking which domain people would want more? Malta, SEO, and DiamondRings? i may be imagining that...

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