It seems that buydomains can grab any domain they really want better than snapnames.

Once WLS comes in, will they be the first ones in with their snapbacks?

no he wont be able to grab all snapbacks at sn
more or less everyone will have similiar chances of snapping one or more of names he-she will want.


I hold hands for WLS to be approved!

yes, but I'm sure they're making up lists right now of domains they're going to place snapbacks on when wls comes in. And they have a lot more money to be doing this than the average domain seller.

people seem to forget that the wls isn't just a one hit wonder - its an ongoing process where being able to mine to find the best names well in advance and being able to afford the wls cost gamble for the non droppers will determine the success *after* the launch. Thats where the likes of buydomains, ult etc will pull ahead of the rest.

At the wls launch itself you can be sure they will have extensive lists of names they want and more resources than the little guys to acquire them. Why? because this is their *business*.

If you can't commit the same levels of cash and resources
(like time) then you simply won't be able to compete ongoing.

The cost of acquisition will also go up dramatically for the big players. Which is which BuyDomains is so vehemently opposed to the WLS.

Also, since the WLS is a 100% clue-in as to what is totally gone from the drop market (you can't try to grab it using another competing service provider like you can now), more resellers will be forced to approach the owner before drops alerting these owners that there are buyers out there and triggering a skyrocketing of prices as a consequence.

There is no technical, priviledged or bribed advantage you can play on the WLS platform like is rampant now with the drop market. The only thing you can do is to plan well ahead and hit the systems on a first-come-first-serve basis at launch. Even with the best scripts, there is only so much the big boys can grab as the seconds tick away. Worse yet, is if script limitations are imposed by Snapnames, the system provider for WLS.

WLS signifies big time hell for the big boys. They will, MUST, do whatever it takes to stop its launch.

Cost of acquisition is more of an issue to the smaller players rather than to the larger ones.

Regarding companies opposing the WLS, this is basic business economics - if the cost of your materials is likely to increase you fight it, but if it happens then you make the most of it as you still have to purchase those materials.

If you really think that there is no advantage under the wls to those with time, money and domain experience (at launch and, more importantly, ongoing) then you are in for a bit of a wake up call methinks.

just out of interest Chris41. Which domain do you think you're going to be able to 'snap' when WLS is brought in?
Because I'm afraid if the domain is ANY good at all you have no chance of getting the WLS... ever. Think of it like that and then tell me if you still can't wait for it.

I'm hoping that snapback's get converted to WLS backorder's. All we can do is gamble on some names which aren't set to drop for a good few months.

Originally posted by safesys
If you really think that there is no advantage under the wls to those with time, money and domain experience (at launch and, more importantly, ongoing) then you are in for a bit of a wake up call methinks.

I didn't say that methinks heh. All I'm saying is that the big boys will have to pay significantly more to do their daily business

Of course if you have money, the world is your oyster

Originally posted by Irish
I'm hoping that snapback's get converted to WLS backorder's. All we can do is gamble on some names which aren't set to drop for a good few months.

Many months ago, snaps did mention that on their web-site. But it has mysteriously gone ... hmm

Originally posted by mole
Many months ago, snaps did mention that on their web-site. But it has mysteriously gone ... hmm

They still have the following on their API info:

"The API also is already optimized for the soon-to-launch Wait List Service from VeriSign Global Registry. Registrars with the SnapNames API will be immediately ready for the WLS when it becomes available. "

Originally posted by DropFinder
just out of interest Chris41. Which domain do you think you're going to be able to 'snap' when WLS is brought in?
Because I'm afraid if the domain is ANY good at all you have no chance of getting the WLS... ever. Think of it like that and then tell me if you still can't wait for it.

Mole thanks, very well written! thats why buydomains is all frustrated and he has typed some boycott petitions..etc


DF I wont tell you which domains I am going to snap.
If domain is any good to me now, it will go to buydomains
he is abusing registrar connections and I think he can grab anything he wants.

If wls will be a good thing for buydomains guy, then I wont think he will be scared soo much.

Problems he will face are:
1.He will have to spend more $$ to snap names!
2. He will be loosing tons of super good names, because all wide public will have similiar chances of snapping domain names.
3. He will have to buy domains from current registrants, if he wont manage to get a snap.


of course buydomains and other top players will try to snap most of good names, but I still think WLS situation will be MUCH better then its now.

Originally posted by chris41

DF I wont tell you which domains I am going to snap.
If domain is any good to me now, it will go to buydomains
he is abusing registrar connections and I think he can grab anything he wants.

If wls will be a good thing for buydomains guy, then I wont think he will be scared soo much.

Problems he will face are:
1.He will have to spend more $$ to snap names!

everyone will have so spend more to go after expired names not just buydomains, likely he will be outlaying more cash but I wouldn't assume he would be any less successful.

how is what he is doing now abusive? he is hiring registrar connections just like snap and all the other big players do. The only legitmate complaint I have heard about buydomains is that he is a better drop chaser than almost anyone else on the planet, there is no crime in that.

if john doe will put snap on bla.com and bla.com is about to be deleted, there would be no chance for buydomains to grab this name with his connections, but john doe will get it.

Good businesses adapt to the prevailing conditions.

Buydomains and ult have made the best of the domain environment as it has changed over the past few years through "work", "effort" and "research" (tools that many other domainers have used to very good effect to build their domain businesses during the exact same period everyone else has been bemoaning the environment).

It seems an awful lot of wls support is based on bitterness towards those that are successful under the current system - that seems a very flawed reason to support something different which has the capacity to make things far worse.